{"id":827,"date":"2024-02-10T15:27:13","date_gmt":"2024-02-10T13:27:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.perspectus.se\/?p=827"},"modified":"2024-02-11T10:27:47","modified_gmt":"2024-02-11T08:27:47","slug":"om-beromda-citat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.perspectus.se\/?p=827","title":{"rendered":"Om ber\u00f6mda citat"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Det h\u00e4r \u00e4r v\u00e4l lite off-topic f\u00f6r den h\u00e4r bloggen, men \u00e4nd\u00e5. Jag \u00e4r fascinerad av hur m\u00e5nga av de citat som brukar f\u00f6rekomma i olika sammanhang, och som tillskrivs k\u00e4nda personer, som \u00e4r mer eller mindre falska. Ibland finns det inga bel\u00e4gg alls f\u00f6r att den utpekade personen har sagt n\u00e5got i stil med citatet, ibland finns det en ursprungsformulering, men den \u00e4r kraftigt omdiktad. Det har blivit lite sport f\u00f6r mig att kolla upp citat, t.ex. p\u00e5 snopes.com, quoteinvestigator.com eller en.wikiquote.org.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>H\u00e4r kommer ett antal exempel: <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>My parents were so dumb when I was seventeen and so much smarter when I was twenty-one: I can\u2019t believe how much they learned in just four years.<\/em> <\/strong><br>&#8220;Mark Twain&#8221;<br>Det \u00e4r ju ett v\u00e4ldigt fint citat, som finns i olika varianter. Men n\u00e4r man kollar upp det s\u00e5 visar det sig att Mark Twains pappa dog n\u00e4r han var 11 \u00e5r. S\u00e5 det handlar i alla fall inte om Twain sj\u00e4lv, utan i s\u00e5 fall om n\u00e5got han diktat ihop. Men man har inte heller lyckats hitta n\u00e5gon skriftlig k\u00e4lla fr\u00e5n Mark Twain till detta citat. Kanske har han sagt det, kanske inte. <br><a href=\"https:\/\/quoteinvestigator.com\/2010\/10\/10\/twain-father\/\">https:\/\/quoteinvestigator.com\/2010\/10\/10\/twain-father\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>The significant problems we face today cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them.<\/em><\/strong> eller <strong><em>We can not solve our problems with the same level of thinking that created them<\/em><\/strong>. <br>&#8220;Einstein&#8221;<br>Det h\u00e4r citatet finns i m\u00e5nga varianter, men det verkar inte som om Einstein sagt just det h\u00e4r. D\u00e4remot \u00e4r nog ursprunget till omdiktningen det inte fullt s\u00e5 slagkraftiga: <em><strong>A new type of thinking is essential if mankind is to survive and move toward higher levels<\/strong>. <\/em><br><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikiquote.org\/wiki\/Albert_Einstein#Misattributed\">https:\/\/en.wikiquote.org\/wiki\/Albert_Einstein#Misattributed<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>Out beyond right and wrong, there is a field. I will meet you there.<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0<br>&#8220;Rumi&#8221;<br>Det h\u00e4r \u00e4r v\u00e4l ett exempel p\u00e5 en v\u00e4ldigt l\u00e5ngtg\u00e5ende omdiktning, ocks\u00e5 v\u00e4ldigt fin. Men vad s\u00e4ger Rumis dikt egentligen? H\u00e4r finns tydligen \u00f6vers\u00e4ttningssv\u00e5righeter, men h\u00e4r \u00e4r ett f\u00f6rs\u00f6k att g\u00f6ra en mer r\u00e4ttvisande \u00f6vers\u00e4ttning: <br>   \u201cBeyond Islam and unbelief there is a \u2018desert plain.\u2019 <br>   For us, there is a \u2018passion\u2019 in the midst of that expanse. <br>   The knower [of God] who reaches there will prostrate [in prayer],<br>   (For) there is neither Islam nor unbelief, nor any \u2018where\u2019 (in) that place.\u201d<br>Inte s\u00e5 v\u00e4rst likt &#8230;<br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dar-al-masnavi.org\/corrections_popular.html\">https:\/\/www.dar-al-masnavi.org\/corrections_popular.html<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.<\/em> <\/strong>Eller p\u00e5 franska: <em><strong>Je ne suis pas d\u2019accord avec ce que vous dites, mais je me battrai pour que vous ayez le droit de le dire.<\/strong><\/em><br>&#8220;Voltaire&#8221;<br>Det d\u00e4r har inte Voltaire sagt eller skrivit, utan det \u00e4r en tolkning av hans attityd i en viss fr\u00e5ga, formulerad av historikern Evelyn Beatrice Hall. Se l\u00e4nken, det \u00e4r r\u00e4tt intressant hur det kan g\u00e5 till. <br><a href=\"https:\/\/quoteinvestigator.com\/2015\/06\/01\/defend-say\/\">https:\/\/quoteinvestigator.com\/2015\/06\/01\/defend-say\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.<\/em><\/strong> <br>&#8220;Seneca&#8221;<br>Detta verkar vara en omdiktning av f\u00f6ljande citat fr\u00e5n Seneca: &#8220;The best wrestler is not he who has learned thoroughly all the tricks and twists of the art, which are seldom met with in actual wrestling, but he who has well and carefully trained himself in one or two of them, and watches keenly for an opportunity of practising them.&#8221;&nbsp;<br><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikiquote.org\/wiki\/Seneca_the_Younger\">https:\/\/en.wikiquote.org\/wiki\/Seneca_the_Younger<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>Everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about. Be kind. Always.<\/em><\/strong><br>Har tillskrivits olika personer, fr\u00e5n Plato och fram\u00e5t. <br>Citatet finns ocks\u00e5 i ett antal olika varianter, vilket ju \u00e4r vanligt n\u00e4r m\u00e5nga anv\u00e4nder det. P\u00e5 quoteinvestigator.com finns ett r\u00e4tt utf\u00f6rligt f\u00f6rs\u00f6k att sp\u00e5ra ursprunget till citatet. F\u00f6rfattaren landar i att det nog kommer fr\u00e5n den skotske pr\u00e4sten John Watson, d\u00e4r den ursprungliga formuleringen \u00e4r: <em><strong>Be pitiful, for every man is fighting a hard battle<\/strong><\/em>. N\u00e5gon tyckte v\u00e4l att man kunde formulera samma sak lite sn\u00e4rtigare &#8230; <br><a href=\"https:\/\/quoteinvestigator.com\/2010\/06\/29\/be-kind\/\">https:\/\/quoteinvestigator.com\/2010\/06\/29\/be-kind\/<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Det h\u00e4r \u00e4r v\u00e4l lite off-topic f\u00f6r den h\u00e4r bloggen, men \u00e4nd\u00e5. Jag \u00e4r fascinerad av hur m\u00e5nga av de citat som brukar f\u00f6rekomma i olika sammanhang, och som tillskrivs k\u00e4nda personer, som \u00e4r mer eller mindre falska. Ibland finns det inga bel\u00e4gg alls f\u00f6r att den utpekade personen har sagt n\u00e5got i stil med &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.perspectus.se\/?p=827\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Om ber\u00f6mda citat<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-827","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.perspectus.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/827","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.perspectus.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.perspectus.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.perspectus.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.perspectus.se\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=827"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/blog.perspectus.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/827\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":838,"href":"https:\/\/blog.perspectus.se\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/827\/revisions\/838"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.perspectus.se\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=827"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.perspectus.se\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=827"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.perspectus.se\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=827"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}